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  Vermona PERfourMER MK2 and NDLR
Posted by: ricjames78 - 06-10-2021, 03:21 PM - Forum: Show me what you got! - Replies (2)

This was the first real go and both recent purchases...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr-OPtJrQCA

It also features a plant, a necessity in a synth video we'll all agree...   Rolleyes

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  Syncing 2 NLDRs
Posted by: MichaelK - 06-09-2021, 09:48 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (2)

Hi there!  

A shout out to you guys!  I missed being able to see you again at Knobconn in 2020!!

At Knobconn in 2019, I was discussing with the guys about syncing 2 NDLRs together so that you could have the master control the key and scale and slave that to the other one.  This way, I can use two to have say 2 drones of different configurations, playing in the same key and scale.  I thought that Darryl said that you could set them up this way, but perhaps I misunderstood.  

Ideally, there would also be a "master" mode (as an option) where one NDLR would control the key, scale and also the chord degrees as you push them - keeping them the same on both units.  This way, you could have more motif, pad or drone parts on the 2nd unit with different settings, modulations, etc. and jam out while keeping them in the same key.  I suppose I could use external keyboards and some midi thru boxes to achieve this, but I would prefer to try and use the units natively if possible.  Right now, I am manually "playing" the chord keys on each but it is combersome sometimes to keep in sync.   Any ideas one has would be great!

Thanks, 
Michael...

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  Using NDLR over USB with Logic: Mixed hardware/software set up
Posted by: HoodUK - 06-09-2021, 06:55 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (1)

Hi

Im trying to use NDLR in a mixed hardware and VST environment over USB MIDI using Logic Pro X

I want to connect NDLR to Logic via USB and control hardware and software using Logic as the hub routing MIDI data to each instrument. I also have a MIDI controller keyboard controlling a Novation Peak over USB via Logic and also a Matriarch, a Drumbrute impact and a Pro 3 SE synth connected (all using Logic as a hub with audio routes in via a focusrite 18i20).  

The Matriarch  is MIDI ch 1, the Peak 2, Pro 3 SE, 3, the Drumbrute is ch 4. The VST’s are on another channel. My usual set up without NDLR is connected this way so I can perform with multiple instruments that are played or sequenced (usually on the device itself rather than Logic) and synced, mixed and recorded in Logic. I don’t yet use Logic to record midi tracks to control the devices but, of course, could by creating MIDI tracks and printing the audio. 

In this case, I just want to play all the instruments using NDLT through Logic over USB instead of manually playing and sequencing in the devices themselves. 

Can this be done without using MIDI DIN connections? If not, is it a problem if I also connect the devices with DIN cables (with them still connected to the DAW with USB)? Do the MIDI channels on NDLR need to match the virtual channels set up in Logic?

I did ask Jesse and got a great response but wondered if any form users had experience with this kind of set up. I tried to cut and paste it here, unsuccessfully. It certainly sounds theoretically possible. 

Thanks

Andy







I have three hardware synths. One is controlled via logic and is a module (Novation Peak). The other two are a Matriarch and a Pro 3 SE respectively. 

Each is on a separate MIDI channel, connected to the DAW (Logic) with USB. 

Can I connect NDLR to logic via USB and control both VST and hardware instruments through logic, or do I have to physically connect each synth to NDLR with 5 pin MIDI cables?

I’m hoping to use virtual MIDI channels with logic as the hub. Is this possible?

Matriarch is ch 1
Peak is ch 2
Pro 3 is ch 3
Each VST is on a different channel…..
MIDI controller keyboard controls peak and, when activated, each VST.


I havI have three hardware synths. One is controlled via logic and is a module (Novation Peak). The two are a Matriarch and a Pro 3 SE respectively. 


Each is on a separate MIDI channel, connected to the DAW (Logic) with USB. 



Can I connect NDLR to logic via USB and control both VST and hardware instruments through logic, or do I have to physically connect each synth to NDLR with 5 pin MIDI cables?



I’m hoping to use virtual MIDI channels with logic as the hub. Is this possible?



Matriarch is ch 1

Peak is ch 2

Pro 3 is ch 3

Each VST is on a different channel…..
MIDI controller keyboard controls peak and, when activated, each VST.e three hardware synths. One is controlled via logic and is a module (Novation Peak). The other two are a Matriarch and a Pro 3 SE respectively. 

Each is on a separate MIDI channel, connected to the DAW (Logic) with USB. 

Can I connect NDLR to logic via USB and control both VST and hardware instruments through logic, or do I have to physically connect each synth to NDLR with 5 pin MIDI cables?

I’m hoping to use virtual MIDI channels with logic as the hub. Is this possible?

Matriarch is ch 1
Peak is ch 2
Pro 3 is ch 3
Each VST is on a different channel…..
MIDI controller keyboard controls peak and, when activated, each VST.

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  Modulate note probability for motifs
Posted by: rev-eng - 06-05-2021, 02:55 AM - Forum: Advanced Features - Replies (2)

Hi everyone,

Just got my NDLR and loving the creative possibilities! One thing I like to do in my music is set a percentage or random chance/probability of a note being triggered in a given sequence. The only way I've found to simulate this with NDLR is to modulate Motif on/off. This has some quirks though - it's not per-step, so you can get extended periods of silence / playing before the modulation triggers again and turns the sequence off or back on. I've tried using velocity, but I can't find a way to get random 0 or 127 values out of an LFO. Is there any way to acheive per-step probability?

Thanks!

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  Pattern/rythm editor: issue with external controller
Posted by: sarbaturi - 06-01-2021, 02:18 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (2)

Hi,

I have had the NDLR for a few months now, and I'm loving it.

However, I have been having an issue with the pattern and rythm editors. In my setup, the NDLR is controlled by a MIDI track on my Digitone, which sends chord changes. If I open the pattern editor while the Digitone is sending MIDI to the NDLR control channel, the NDLR will cycle through the steps of the pattern and change their value randomly (which is not what I want). The same occurs with the rythm editor. The only workaround I have found is to mute the MIDI track controlling the NDLR while editing the pattern (or rythm), but this is limiting because I would like to edit the pattern (or rythm) in the context of the chord progression I'm playing. Please note I had the same issue in a different setup with a Beatstep Pro controlling the NDLR.

I would be grateful for any help you may be able to provide.

Many thanks,

Salvatore

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  Velocity Curves ???
Posted by: receng - 05-31-2021, 07:38 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (2)

It seems the MRCC has Velocity scaling, but it would be wonderful if it had velocity curves - varying from linear response to a logarithmic curve (up or down) with scaling...

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  Octave up/down on outputs and/or layers ?
Posted by: receng - 05-31-2021, 07:34 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (3)

Hi,
It seems to me it would be really useful to have a way to transpose octaves up or down on each of the outputs.
That is also the case for the layer and splits - I haven't seen anything yet on this.
Please consider adding it!

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  MIDI Thinning/priority -- question and/or feature request
Posted by: arkoenig - 05-27-2021, 09:49 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (2)

I have an MRCC on order. One thing I want to do with it is connect a device called MMM (Massive MIDI Modulator) that generates what is potentially a very large number of MIDI CC messages. It has a (class compliant) USB-MIDI output, and I would ultimately like to merge its output with that another device (a sequencer, which is also capable of USB-MIDI output) and send the resulting stream to a 5-pin MIDI port on a third device (a Nord Drum 2 drum synth).

The Nord has no USB-MIDI capability. That means that either of the devices feeding it might generate MIDI faster than the 5-pin port can handle. That is very unlikely to be a problem with the sequencer, but might be a problem with the MMM.

I can think of two possible ways of handling this problem:

1) Put incoming MIDI messages in a queue as they arrive, and send them to the output as fast as possible. 
2) Put incoming MIDI messages in a separate queue for each input device, and give priority to one of the inputs when deciding which messages to transfer to the output.

In my particular application, (2) is far preferable, because it means that if the MMM generates bursts of MIDI messages, that does not cause the messages from the sequencer to arrive late, only the modulation messages, which don't need to be precisely timed anyway.

However, there is still the problem of what to do when the queue (or one of the queues) overflows.

I have a suggestion, if you are not already doing this: If you're going to throw messages away, how about trying first to discard messages that appear to be redundant. In particular, if the queue appears to be filling up, and you are about to process a CC message, perhaps it might be worth looking to see whether there is already another CC message for the same channel, device, and CC number, and, if so, discarding the earlier one.

This strategy may be too simplistic. However, it seems to me that any device that turns USB MIDI into DIN MIDI might have to deal with thinning the MIDI stream somehow; and at the very least it would be nice to know how MRCC is going to do that, and perhaps to have some control over it.

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  Ability to change MIDI Thru to MIDI Out
Posted by: bwquestion - 05-21-2021, 07:00 AM - Forum: Feature Requests - No Replies

Currently it seems that every pair of in/out is actually a pair of in/merge thru.

Given that we have 6 pairs (2 5pin and 4 USB) is would be great if we could actually have some of the pairs actually be true out and some be true thru.

This device has the possibility of being a part of some pretty elaborate set ups and having to break up the pairs to avoid possible loops can get to the point where the creativity is ruined as we spend time trying to trace down a chain loop that could be easily avoided with a setting that would allow us to just let the out side of the pair to actually be an out instead of a merge/thru hybrid.  This seems to be particularly true with the 5 pin A and B connections and the USB 1 in/out as they are the most often used in my device.

This would be particularly great when using a MIDI controller with many knobs and sliders. Idea

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  Chord Sequencer & using "alt" chord types?
Posted by: audiovapor - 05-20-2021, 05:41 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (2)

Hi, I am using the Chord Sequencer and it's working well. The only thing I can't figure out is how to use the alt1 and alt2 chord type within a chord sequence. The options to choose them do not seem to be available. How can I use the alt1 and alt2 chord types within a chord sequence?

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