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  Max for Live, reading the settings
Posted by: robrain - 37 minutes ago - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - No Replies

Hi there. Just started work on a NDLR CC control widget for Max for Live. Basically just wrapping Appendix A in a load of control knobs that send the appropriate CCs.

All good so far, sending CC's like a good 'un and messing with the automation that allows. But there's a bit of setup I'm struggling with - I want to get the initial values of the settings and pre-load them into the knobs so that there's no "jump to zero" when you connect to the NDLR (or the first time you turn a particular knob).

So, can I read the existing settings? If I'm being an idiot, feel free to set response to "Burn". I need to learn!


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  Minor Change Request to CC#s
Posted by: House de Kris - 11-22-2020, 12:42 PM - Forum: Feature Requests - Replies (1)

I'd like to humbly request a couple minor changes to the CC#s that the NDLR responds to currently. This is actually a two-pronged request, and I realize I should probably split it into two separate threads for clarity, but I'm lazy - so please treat this as two separate and independent change requests.

I'd like to have another CC# added to control the Pause / Play aspect of all four parts, in one word. Currently there are four CC#s used, one for each part, with accepted values of 0-62 implying Pause and 63-127 resulting in Play. I'll skip the lengthy reasoning why this is difficult for me to integrate into my NDLR usage, but having one CC# for all parts would make it easier (for me). Use just the bottom four bits for control, and ignore the higher order bits. Perhaps something like:

Bit0 = Motif 1
Bit1 = Motif 2
Bit2 = Drone
Bit3 = Pads
Where, 0 = Pause and 1 = Play

This implies a 0-15 acceptable range, but if higher order bits are ignored, then the pattern of 16 valid codes repeats through the entire range of 0-127.

I love the Modulation Matrix, but I'm disappointed that there just aren't enough sources. I'm not requesting more LFOs or preset modulators, but rather a path for user supplied external oscillators to be used as sources. Very similar to the MIDI inputs, but more of them and with a consistent usage pattern. Therefore, I propose using a block of eight CC#s from 100 to 107 as sources for the Modulation Matrix. My justification for this request stems from my past usage of an Alesis MMT-8 sequencer as an octal MIDI-sync'ed LFO generator. This would give a greater frequency range, wave shapes, phase relationships than the ones included in the stock NDLR.

I made a chart showing the CC#s as defined in the NDLR currently, and suggested changes to realize the two separate requests of this post, see attached.

.txt   NDLR CC chart.txt (Size: 8.18 KB / Downloads: 3)

This chart displays all 128 possible CC#s and NDLR uses, in addition to standard MIDI definitions of common or reserved CC#s. The vertical columns are (from left to right):

CC# - the CC#
Resr - Reserved
Genl - General use functions of NDLR
Mot1 - Motif 1 specific functions in NDLR
Mot2 - Motif 2 specific functions in NDLR
Dron - Drone specific functions in NDLR
Pads - Pads specific functions in NDLR
Prop - Proposed new functions in this request
RANGE - Indicates allowable values that are recognized per CC#
TARGET - A brief description of the CC# function

The dashes under Resr, Genl, Mot1, Mot2, Dron, and Pads visually show how each CC# is used. Periods are used in those fields for the proposed changes, which are designated with YYYY and XXXX in the Prop column (differentiating the two different requests).

I hope this makes sense. If any clarification is needed, please ask. I also hope that the level of effort in making this request gives a hint as to how much I'd appreciate having these features added.

House de Kris

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  Powering NDLR over Usb from another synth??
Posted by: Chefmalte - 11-20-2020, 04:21 PM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - No Replies

Hi there Ndlr’s
I was wondering if it’s possible to power the Ndlr  from polyend seq over usb.
I got a usb a/b converter so the connections are made..
I’ve seen a tutorial on YouTube with the Ndlr and a deluge..
and I thought it should work as well, but it doesn’t??
Thanks for the help.

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Exclamation NDLR USB not recognized by iConnectivity MIDI4+ host
Posted by: 0xF0 - 11-18-2020, 05:57 PM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (2)

Hello there, just got my brand new NDLR and was very excited to connect it to my iConnectivity MIDI 4+ so I can integrate it into the studio. Sadly, it's not recognized. This is an issue for me as I am entirely out of DIN ports to run it through. 

I saw the thread on the MioXL not working either but I figured I'd start a new one since I didn't want this additional incompatibility to get lost in the shuffle.

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  Sprinkler: A Poem
Posted by: secretstairsrecords - 11-18-2020, 01:40 PM - Forum: Show me what you got! - No Replies

It is just before dawn.

The sprinklers have just come on.

The span of its rays undulate in meditation.

Its fluctuations create the illusion of perspiration.

Upon blue surfaces 

Cool bodies lie. 

Minute droplets appear.


All music was created from various modules in VCV Rack and from various softsynths, all controlled by the NDLR, then edited in Logic Pro X.

All video was created from various copyright-free clips from the Internet Archive website, then further manipulated using the Hyperspektiv app, all the Edited in iMovie.

Click here for Sprinkler: A Poem

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  Planned "shift menu" features
Posted by: 190531085100 - 11-17-2020, 08:14 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (2)

What settings or features are planned for the "shift menu" and "shift encoder" options? Knob 2 and 3 on the left side, and 3 and 4 on the right side.

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  Hello new member here :)
Posted by: vasidudu - 11-17-2020, 01:36 PM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (1)

Hi all,

Just wanted to say hello to everyone.
New to this forum but not so much to electronic music.
Willing to give this NDLR a go and actually waiting delivery of a second hand unit.
Can't wait to be honest.

Will be using with various hardware (and VSTi).
Deepmind 12D
Toraiz AS-1


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  Incoming velocity
Posted by: LilErichZahn1972 - 11-15-2020, 09:00 PM - Forum: Feature Requests - No Replies

I read the manual and didn't find how to set the velocity of the pads / motifs and drone so it is use the incoming velocity instead of a fixed value. Is this possible ? Could it be a possible value please ?

ps Just started using NDLR and I really appreciate the device.

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  NDLR and MPC One
Posted by: SynthJamz - 11-15-2020, 11:40 AM - Forum: Show me what you got! - Replies (3)

Using only the NDLR and MPC One. My first ever jam with the NDLR. Something a little more uptempo than a lot of ndlr jams I've seen. 


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  [SOLVED] USB MIDI: Hardware or Configuration Issue?
Posted by: mgray - 11-13-2020, 11:13 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (3)

Hi, all.

I've been using NDLR for about week with synths connected via MIDI DIN. For past couple of days, I've been trying to integrate softsynths via USB MIDI.

I get no MIDI data (except for clock, as monitored through MIDI monitor on the Macbook).

Rather than going through all the permutations I've tried (MIDI channel settings in NDLR, iPad and Macbook Pro, different apps, swapped cables, etc.), I'm wondering if any of you might be able to provide a detailed step-by-step description of what I can do to determine whether I've got a NDLR hardware issue or a configuration issues. Some urgency, since I may need to return the unit.

Any help would be very much appreciated. 



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