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  MIDI Thinning/priority -- question and/or feature request
Posted by: arkoenig - 05-27-2021, 09:49 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (2)

I have an MRCC on order. One thing I want to do with it is connect a device called MMM (Massive MIDI Modulator) that generates what is potentially a very large number of MIDI CC messages. It has a (class compliant) USB-MIDI output, and I would ultimately like to merge its output with that another device (a sequencer, which is also capable of USB-MIDI output) and send the resulting stream to a 5-pin MIDI port on a third device (a Nord Drum 2 drum synth).

The Nord has no USB-MIDI capability. That means that either of the devices feeding it might generate MIDI faster than the 5-pin port can handle. That is very unlikely to be a problem with the sequencer, but might be a problem with the MMM.

I can think of two possible ways of handling this problem:

1) Put incoming MIDI messages in a queue as they arrive, and send them to the output as fast as possible. 
2) Put incoming MIDI messages in a separate queue for each input device, and give priority to one of the inputs when deciding which messages to transfer to the output.

In my particular application, (2) is far preferable, because it means that if the MMM generates bursts of MIDI messages, that does not cause the messages from the sequencer to arrive late, only the modulation messages, which don't need to be precisely timed anyway.

However, there is still the problem of what to do when the queue (or one of the queues) overflows.

I have a suggestion, if you are not already doing this: If you're going to throw messages away, how about trying first to discard messages that appear to be redundant. In particular, if the queue appears to be filling up, and you are about to process a CC message, perhaps it might be worth looking to see whether there is already another CC message for the same channel, device, and CC number, and, if so, discarding the earlier one.

This strategy may be too simplistic. However, it seems to me that any device that turns USB MIDI into DIN MIDI might have to deal with thinning the MIDI stream somehow; and at the very least it would be nice to know how MRCC is going to do that, and perhaps to have some control over it.

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  Ability to change MIDI Thru to MIDI Out
Posted by: bwquestion - 05-21-2021, 07:00 AM - Forum: Feature Requests - No Replies

Currently it seems that every pair of in/out is actually a pair of in/merge thru.

Given that we have 6 pairs (2 5pin and 4 USB) is would be great if we could actually have some of the pairs actually be true out and some be true thru.

This device has the possibility of being a part of some pretty elaborate set ups and having to break up the pairs to avoid possible loops can get to the point where the creativity is ruined as we spend time trying to trace down a chain loop that could be easily avoided with a setting that would allow us to just let the out side of the pair to actually be an out instead of a merge/thru hybrid.  This seems to be particularly true with the 5 pin A and B connections and the USB 1 in/out as they are the most often used in my device.

This would be particularly great when using a MIDI controller with many knobs and sliders. Idea

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  Chord Sequencer & using "alt" chord types?
Posted by: audiovapor - 05-20-2021, 05:41 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (4)

Hi, I am using the Chord Sequencer and it's working well. The only thing I can't figure out is how to use the alt1 and alt2 chord type within a chord sequence. The options to choose them do not seem to be available. How can I use the alt1 and alt2 chord types within a chord sequence?

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  NDLR and Nord Lead users?
Posted by: audiovapor - 05-15-2021, 05:43 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (3)

I am using the NDLR with a Nord Lead 4 and it's working very well. The 4 parts of the NDLR are controlling the 4 multi-timbral parts of the Nord, each on their own MIDI channel (1,2,3,4).

Everything works as expected until I try to use a NDLR LFO to control a MIDI CC on a Nord MIDI channel. Sometimes it works and then sometimes it doesn't. The Nord MIDI CC's are set to "receive" and the MIDI channel of the NDLR LFO and Nord are the same. The LFO modulation amount is 100%. I have tried multiple MIDI CC destinations (1-127).

Are there any Nord owners here that might have had success with this?

The only thing I can think of as to why it wouldn't work is that there is so much simultaneous MIDI information going into the Nord at one time that there is no room for any more MIDI data from an LFO. I'm not even sure if that makes sense (I'm not an expert on MIDI technicalities!).

Any advice would be appreciated.

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  Chord change via midi keyboard
Posted by: ToBi - 05-13-2021, 04:27 PM - Forum: Feature Requests - Replies (2)

Hi,
I would really like to be able to record the chord changes to one of my Ensoniq TS 10 sequencer tracks.
There is the key+ function - I'd like to propose a key++ function, where you can play full chords that the NDLR recognizes, like:
C E G for C major
C Eb G for C minor
C E (G) Bb for C7...
I think you know what I mean.
The cc programming is just too complicated for me.
Anybody that thinks that could be a good idea?

Great little box, though, this NDLR...yeah!
Thomas

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  Save presets externally
Posted by: ToBi - 05-13-2021, 04:19 PM - Forum: Feature Requests - Replies (2)

Hi and hello everybody,
I got my NDLR 3 weeks ago and started trying everything.
I would like to have the option to save the 8 presets to my PC somehow.Maybe like MidiOx...
I want to do live performances and that limits me to basically 8 setups (or songs). I think I'd need more...
What do you think?

Happy noodeling!
Thomas

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  Lockable Pattern Lengths
Posted by: Xenode - 05-12-2021, 02:34 AM - Forum: Feature Requests - Replies (2)

So I'm loving the NDLR I got in the mail a few weeks ago, so far I can't find any way to lock the length of any pattern. When I don't use all the steps available I end up with a lot of space on the overview. When switching from one pattern of a greater length to another I end up with a bunch of blank spaces and no easy way to lock the number of steps. Is this just a feature I'm not seeing or is it something that could be implemented?

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  Dirt Built Up On Horse
Posted by: secretstairsrecords - 05-10-2021, 11:12 AM - Forum: Show me what you got! - No Replies

It became night when he rode into town

Dirt built up on horse

They broached the illuminating cask

with enlivened hearts and tilted heads 

Taking into their throats the flavors of the past

Obeying a monosyllabic leader made of evaporated light

Singing songs about liberated experiences

that helped construct those unfortunate machines


All music was created from various modules in VCV Rack and from various softsynths, all controlled by the NDLR, then edited in Logic Pro X.
All video was created from various copyright-free video clips from the Internet Archive website, then further manipulated using the Hyperspektiv app, all the Edited in iMovie.

Poems by Justin Giustizia 


Click here for the video on Youtube

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  Adding the Expendable to MRCC order?
Posted by: Julien STG - 05-05-2021, 07:52 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (1)

Hi, is it too late to add the Expendable to the order and have it shipped together with the MRCC in the coming days? If it can, what would be the ordering/payment procedure?

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  Midi send/return issue
Posted by: bwquestion - 05-04-2021, 08:58 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (7)

Hey all, first my apologies if this is something I am missing but I am not even sure what search terms to use to search for.  I will explain my problem.

I have the NDLR connected by USB to my computer.  I have Ableton Live, Cakewalk, and Midi Ox that has produced this issue.

I have the NDLR set to send midi out of USB1 which shows up in all the software as NDLR.  Motif 1 goes out channel 1, Motif 2 goes out channel 2, Drone goes out channel 3, Pad goes out 4 and has P-Chains enabled (4) so there is also MIDI data going out channels 6 and 7 (not sure what happened to 5 but that is not of particular importance right now).

If i select the input and output from any software I have, it seems to make a loop and the NDLR is repeating the same MIDI messages it is sending out.  I am not really sure what to make of this as I have a good bit of hardware and have not seen this particular issue before.  If this is happening with other hardware they seem to be ignoring the looped data they have sent that gets returned to them.

Is there a setting or something that I have missed?  I have tried the last two firmware release versions and the current beta for the NDLR and the problem (or my lack of knowledge) seems to exist across all of them.

If I disable the MIDI send in the software, the problem goes away but I cannot send any MIDI to the NDLR.

I hope I have worded this in a way that makes since.  Any help or pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Bryant  Huh

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