A little more space-y this time.

Hi,

First post on the forum, but been using NDLR for 5 months now. Very happy owner.

One thing I'm struggling with, is the beta function under (shift+menu) encoder 2. What is this rotation algorithm supposed to do? And is there a clear, n00b-proof explanation somewhere? The info that's under encoder 2 itself is a bit short, i think I need a step-by-step.

Thanks and keep on noodling ,
John

Hi all,

So, been enjoying the NDLR for nearly a month now. Still plenty of investigating to do, but it seems to be working very well for me.

I've got a selection of jams up on my YouTube channel, and it feels like I can shamelessly plug myself here by advertising it to you fine people:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1ppwue...2SQ/videos

It's all kinda "melodic glitch", I guess that's the genre. "IDM" always sounds a bit pretentious. I like trying to combine pleasant melodies with stuttery, polyrhythmic, percussion. And then it's played under eye-gouging acid flashback visuals, which you may or may not want to actually sit through.

Hardware-wise we are:

Roland MC707 as the "brain" and then much of the noises. The NDLR goes MIDIA Out to the 707's MIDI In, which then normally assigns Channels 1+2 to Motifs, 3 for the Drone, and 4 for the Pad. At the minute I'm chord changing with the front panel of the NDLR - I experimented a bit with controlling chord changes by MIDI, but for the moment I'm mostly happy playing it by hand.

Novation AFX Station. Typically used for one of the Motifs or the Drone. Either way it's connected to the MIDI-1 Out of the 707 and I just assign the channels however I like. The audio is then fed back in to the 707.

BlackBox1010. Typically used for adding loops, although I've been experimenting recently with using it for another Motif - and even using one of the Motifs to control percussion, with some S&H LFO to create a more 'random' feel to the samples it plays. The audio is also fed back in to the 707.

The NDLR is powered from the BlackBox1010 via USB, and then takes the clock from the BlackBox. The BlackBox is plugged into the MIDI-2 Out of the 707 which is itself sending clock to the BlackBox so the real 'master' is the 707. It's a bit round-a-bout, but it keeps everything as sync'd as I want. The 707 is then connected to my PC via USB (which is why I'm not powering the NDLR with the 707 ...) so I can record and master stuff into Ableton. There is also often a cheeky bit of Izotope's StutterEdit added in with the mix for fun.

Video visuals, in case anyone was interested, are from a piece of software called Magic. 

It'd be lovely if anyone fancies a listen. Any and all feedback gratefully received - either here or on YouTube.

Thanks for your time.

Peace and love,
Joel.

I find that I leave the MRCC in the Activity screen during most time of playing synths. I really like the source indicators and the boxes being filled with color to show MIDI traffic. Here's a couple suggestions for that screen:

1. Would there be any way to indicate an active arpeggiator? I can set it up with Hold on, which generates a flow of data, but the Activity screen is blank, indicating nothing is happening. 

2. I would like to see the currently recalled preset displayed in the blue banner after the word ACTIVITY. Going further, I'd like to see an indication in this field if the current configuration has been modified since the preset load. This modification indicator could be like a period after the number, or a different color (I'd prefer the period). That way, we'd have a reminder to save the preset to reflect the changes made.

HdK

Hi all,
Playing around today and it occurred to me I frequently use a subset of a given pattern, but sometimes I want to change the playing melodic pattern or rhythm of a playing Motif. It would be nice to be able to shift these windows (imagine a 4 length pattern, then modulating it via an LFO)

As I dive into the MRCC and its extensive feature set, I imagine getting to a point where there are a lot of small adjustments that were made, and that I forgot about. I am wondering if there are plans to allow the user to export/import the whole presets/settings via the PC port, either in HEX or Sysex format.

Jesse mentioned that a connection's settings get lost if the output of the connection is disabled. This is something I tried and confirmed on my MRCC (v0.0.119). 

I am thinking people might put work into setting up a connection and accidentally loose it this way, or worse not understand the workflow and think it's a bug causing data/settings to disappear. 

I don't know if that's possible, but i think that buffering the last settings of each output from the moment they are de-activated in the connection, to when they are re-activated, would help mitigate that, and improve he user experience / satisfaction.

When I patch my octatrack to the NDLR ctrl track....and set my NDLR to internal clock...then midi cc #72 should *not* override the NDLR’s internal clock....

In my case I have a midi patch bay...each NDLR is connected to the octatrack and share the same CTRL layer.

I like running one NDLR at one tempo and the other at 1/2 speed.

The only way I can do this now is to either use midi b from the 1st NDLR ...but then using the octatrack to change the mode/scale....doesn’t get sent as midi THRU to the 2nd NDLR...which makes concurrent midi controllable harmonic coordination unsustainable.

Yes the workaround is to use clock dividers on the motifs...but due to the way the tempo cc is set up , this affects the pad strum and the drone rhythm.

Some people want more features for direct control. 

and that is fair and valid.

I come from a different perspective which incorporates additional sequencers which can coordinate the NDLR achieve higher levels of synergy.

tweaking and twiddling has its place and I enjoy it...but I also want coordinated landscapes of harmonic drama...Horizons where I can place harmonic formations and control and contort them over vast spans of time like a conductor.

I want a cache and failsafes that would prevent the NDLR from ever crashing when receiving a copious amount of data from an external source, like an Octatrack.

I understand that space is limited.

so make variant builds similar to the eurorack module called "ornament & crime"

So for user's who have external sequencers available nix the chord sequencer code/menus, etc. and reinforce stability for reading and routing midi cc data.

extra space could be used for :

more drone modes and increase the potential time step increments on the pad channels.

different LFO shapes

but most importantly make a version where the NDLR looks forward to external modulation from other sequencers like the Octatrack.

Hi

I am a new owner of NLDR and am having great fun with it.  Love the set of constraints and variables selected by the NLDR team, love the logical control layout, and the graphic design and layout of the display.  I have a question for which I did not find an answer in the manual or in this forum.

I have stored different patterns in Pattern slots 22 trough 29.  I have corresponding Rhythms stored in Rhythm slots 22 to 29.
I am trying to sequence (modulate) these pairs [Patterns, Rhythms] via a Pattern stored in slot 21.  Pattern 21 is stored as notes (fixed range 1..40, and I am using range 22..29).  Patterns 22 trough 29 are stored as Chords. Not that this should matter but my Patterns are length 16 and my Rhythms are length 32 with 16 Ties and Rests; thus it is a 16/16 combination.
I have defined LFO-2 with a rate of 48 beats, a shape of Pattern 21, 100% probability.
I have one modulator using LFO-2 as source and Motif1 Pattern as destination (with Mod Destination Value = 1)
I have another modulator using LFO-2 as source and Motif1 Rhythm as destination (with Mod Destination Value =1)

I start everything with Play All.  LFO-2 is driving Rhythm slot changes as expected but is not driving any Pattern slot changes.  The Pattern remains the same while the Rhythm is changing.

What am I doing wrong?
Can the same LFO be used twice as a Mod Source in the modulation matrix?
Alternatively, can a Pattern based LFO drive the selection Pattern slots (numbers)?

Many thanks in advance for any help with this.  I realize I am stretching NLDR to also be a sequencer while it is mostly meant to be a noodler.