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Question NOTE ON/OFF handling, when switching off a port.
Posted by: HighStop - 12-29-2019, 02:46 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (3)

I have a question about using MRCC live.
If you hold a chord on a keyboard (note on) and switch off the output that received the chord (note on), then what happens:

A. The chord will hang forever.
B. The chord is stopped when the port is switch off using "All Note Off"
C. The chord is stopped when the port is switch off by sending "Note off" on the keys used.
D. The chord stays until you lift your fingers from the keyboard (note off).

I hope that it does "D" and if it does will it work with both "Note Off" and "Note On velocity = 0"?


The same goes for other type of MIDI message, if something is send while a port is on the MRCC should track it and allow
"reset" message to get thru after the port is switch off.

Thanks For some nice devices that I hope to add to my collection soon.

Kent 

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  Motif position error on load
Posted by: Almost Aviation - 12-28-2019, 11:55 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (1)

(1.1.063 firmware)

I have been experimenting with creating my own motifs and I noticed that there are usually anomalies in the initial position when I load them. What I mean is, if I start the motif playing, the pitch doesn't match the location of the corresponding Position icon at the top of the screen. For example, the Position icon may be over to the right but the pitch is low. The behaviour of the Position knob and icon are otherwise as expected but the range is constrained and there only seem to be 10 distinct positions of the icon instead of 20.

I found this issue with standard patterns too. To reproduce it try the following:

(1) From menu page 3, load config 0.
(2) Set the MIDI port for Motif-1 appropriately (for me, it's USB1).

Motif-1 will already have Pattern 1 loaded. The position icon is out to the right. Rotating the Position knob moves the position icon in large steps, of which there are only 10 positions from full left to full right. You can't select higher pitches. Instrumentation shows the notes played by this stock pattern will range from C1 (full left) to G6 (full right).

The following action fixes it:

(3) Press SHIFT+MENU to enter the Pattern editor.
(4) Immediately press MENU to exit the Pattern editor.

The Position icon and knob now work correctly, with 20 distinct positions selectable. Depending on what you did to the Position knob before entering the Pattern editor, the Position icon may have moved, but it now correctly reflects the selected pitch. Instrumentation shows the range of notes available is now C1 to G8. It seems you have to enter the pattern editor separately for each of Motif-1 and motif-2 to fix it for both patterns.

I hope this makes sense.


There are also other anomalies, which are harder to demonstrate because they involve my custom patterns. I have been playing with creating Scale and Chromatic patterns. When I load one of these I get the issue described above. I fix it by entering and exiting the Pattern editor as before.

BUT

When I subsequently select another pattern (e.g. standard Pattern1) the Position knob and icon show anomalous behaviour in a different way. In the particular examples I have been playing with, the pitch tops out when the Position icon is only half-way across the screen. If I move it all the way to the right the pitch stays topped out. If I then enter and exit the Pattern editor, the Position icon is initially missing. If I rotate the knob anti-clockwise, it reappears and the knob, icon and pitch now work as expected.

My initial observation is that this behaviour doesn't happen with a Chord type custom pattern, although I haven't done any rigorous experiments.

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  Using a MIDI keyboard to input Motifs
Posted by: Almost Aviation - 12-27-2019, 10:17 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (4)

What I am most interested in doing with the Motifs is to use them for simple fixed sequences, such as you can program on a regular hardware or software sequencer. The way I am doing this is to create a pattern in the pattern editor using type 'chromatic' and then entering the notes. It is laborious doing this with the knobs but I see you can also use a MIDI keyboard to enter the notes. This almost does what I expect except the recorded notes are transposed from what I play. When I have C selected as the key (the default) everything is transposed up by three semitones. I have found I can record the actual notes (almost) if I select the key to E-flat, in which case all the notes are transposed up by an octave.

I am guessing there is a 'musical' explanation for what is going on here, but is there an easier way to do what I want?

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  A Bug? Transpose Wonkiness
Posted by: House de Kris - 12-23-2019, 09:49 AM - Forum: Feature Requests - Replies (4)

Yesterday I tried out the Keyboard Transpose feature, something I've been looking forward to. Worked great! Alas, a bizarre bug showed up quickly. For whatever reason, I accidentally tapped Controller 2 after a Shift+Menu. This sent the NDLR into crazyville and it never came back to normal until after cycling power. Here's the setup:

1- I was in Eb Lydian (could be any key and mode), enjoying the transposition
2- NDLR output channels were 1MA, 2MA, 3MA, 4MA
3- KB Trans was 16all 
4- External keyboard attached to MIDI IN B
5- External synth on MIDI OUT B

As soon as I hit Shift+Menu 2:

1- single notes sent from external keyboard now become three note "chords"
2- these chords are not necessarily in the selected key and mode, and may be plain dissonant 
3- low velocity (like 0A) notes played on ext keyboard result in single notes, but repeated plays get different note values
4- slightly higher velocity numbers gets two notes played (typical playing, though, gets three notes to sound per note played)
5- in this wonky mode, stuck notes are common and plentiful - Shift + Panic does not clear them
6- the only way out of this mode is to pull the power connector and start over, doing a GLOB Load doesn't help

Requests and/or questions:

1- REQUEST: can you make it so the pressing Shift+Menu 2 doesn't make the NDLR go brain dead?
1- QUESTION: or is this one of those cases where the solution is, 'just don't do that!'?
2- REQUEST: can we get a RESET or REBOOT option in a menu to restart the NDLR with a clean slate?
2- QUESTION: or, is power cycling the best answer here?
3- REQUEST: can we get Shift+Panic to turn off all notes on all channels, as implied in the manual?
3- QUESTION: does Shift+Panic send 7B to all channels on all ports, or just the channels/ports associated with the four NDLR parts? Perhaps my ext synth can't decipher All Notes Off.

Otherwise, I'm enjoying NDLRing!

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  Lighthouse
Posted by: Almost Aviation - 12-22-2019, 11:58 AM - Forum: Show me what you got! - Replies (1)

Impressions of an old Hawkwind song.

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  Christmas Haiku
Posted by: Tim Wilson - 12-22-2019, 10:53 AM - Forum: Show me what you got! - Replies (2)

A Christmas Ndlr Haiku

https://soundcloud.com/broken-gadget/christmastrip

Best regards

Tim

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  Torso Electronics T-1 Algorithmic Sequencer
Posted by: drGrov - 12-20-2019, 10:49 AM - Forum: Synths and Gear News, Discussion - Replies (5)

This appeared on GearNews today. There doesn't seem to be much info other than a couple of short videos but it does look interesting. A worthy companion to the NDLR perhaps...

https://www.torsoelectronics.com/product/t-1

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  Update goes wrong
Posted by: Anthea - 12-18-2019, 05:20 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (1)

Hi! I'm Anthea, was a happy NDLR user, decide to do the update. So I follow all the instruction on the website (reread it 3 times did nothing wrong) and when I push the FW button with a pen the NDLR shutdown and... never goes on again. No reaction at all, I tried uunplug it re plug it, to my computer, to another, to a usb current adaptator and just nothing. I think I need help please!

Have a nice day.


Sorry posted too fast, I did the opperation again, like three time in a row and it's working again. Was pretty affraid. This post can be deleted. Sorry everyone, have a cool day!

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  chord control over midi?
Posted by: Dunk - 12-17-2019, 09:57 PM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (3)

Hi,

I haven't received my NDLR yet, so don't know the answer to this but: I understand you cannot (yet) sequence chord changes (i.e. pressing the buttons around the centre display) using The NDLR itself - I was wondering is it possible to sequence this externally? 

i.e. could I use my BeatStepPro to control chord changes?

Furthermore, if this is possible then it should also be possible to do same with an iPad app - which opens up a whole load of crazy options for random, generative etc. chord sequencing...

Cheers,

D.

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Music by luck I live
Posted by: Nick - 12-16-2019, 04:47 PM - Forum: Show me what you got! - Replies (4)

totally edited and composed.  the backbone is the NDLR.  basically how I came up with this song. I'm using bloefeld, minilogue, slim Phatty, sub Phatty, elektron keys and Rytm. going into various preamps and what not

thanks for listening

by luck I live

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