Hi - just updated the NDLR with the new firmware and now the NDLR just has a blank screen. HELP!

Hi, and thanks for creating this great device!

Would it be possible to have an "inverted" option for all LFO shapes in the mod matrix?

For example, if I'm in G major and using LFO-3 set to square at 16 beats I can have slot 1 modulating Chord Degree between 0 and 1 and slot 2 using the same LFO modulating Chord Type between 1 and 5 - this gives me a simple chord sequence alternating between Gsus4 and A7 (the opposite of what I initially expected, but I guess that's because a Type change only comes into effect when a new Degree is selected, and with the LFO the two events are firing simultaneously). If I wanted to alternate between G7 and Asus4, I'd need to be able to invert the LFO in slot 2.

My ideas are that you could either double up the number of options when selecting a Mod Source ("LFO-1 Inv", etc.) or make it possible to select negative values for MOD AMT - so with my example a DEST VAL of 1 and MOD AMT of 70% gives a Mod Range of 1 to 5, but a MOD AMT of -70% would result in a descending Mod Range of 5 to 1.

I'd be interested in your thoughts on feasibility, and fully appreciate from my own endeavours what it's like to have a user "imagine it would be easy"! 

Got my NDLR yesterday and made my first YouTube video today. 

https://youtu.be/fbqA4-38rLM

Just a quick test to prove that it worked. The NDLR is playing 4 different synth tracks on the Deluge at once. 

Still working out some timing issues and learning how to use the NDLR. Still learning the Deluge too. I've had that for 2 weeks now. 

Hoping I can turn this pair into a real live performance rig. I need those wooden end pieces and a stand for both!

Things just got interesting with the introduction of Taipei (MIDI-Out Control Module) to Korg's Gadget.

https://www.korg.com/uk/products/software/korg_gadget/

Worth checking out for iPad NDLRs.

Working with 2 NDLRs. Is it possible to export custom patterns and rhythms from one device, in order to import them on the other?

Our band is experimenting with 2 NDLRs in our setup, one for each pile of synths. I'm wondering if there's a simpler way of taming 2 at the same time.

Here's our current setup:
Clock: NDLR 1 (master) midi out -> NDLR 2 midi in
Chord degree/shape: Keystep -> midi splitter -> NDLR 1 & NDLR 2 midi in

This allows us to sync clock and have 1 keyboard control for the chord changes on both units, but we still need to manually sync Key and Scale on each device (which is pretty fiddly do to the knob resolution). And it requires a midi splitter plus separate cables for clock and chord sync.

Our ideal solution would look like this:
Keystep (chord control) -> NDLR 1 (clock master, key, scale, chord degree, chord shape) -> NDLR 2 (clock slave, key slave, scale slave, chord degree slave, chord shape slave)

Often when jamming with slower bpms, I want to add a nice burbling arp as texture. 1/8 note divisions just isn't fast enough in those cases. Doubling the master tempo is my current work around, but allowing 1/16 and 1/32 divisions on the NDLR would simplify process immensely.

Back in the 90’s I used to do the tabletop techno thing, various pieces of Roland equipment linked together using midi, sync24, cv and gate. A live performance included momentary breaks to squint at scrappy pieces of paper with notes and entering them into the Roland SH 101 sequencer. Nine times out of ten you recreated the intended sequence. Ironing boards were a crucial piece of equipment serving as rickety stands for the instruments. One thing I loved about the SH 101 was the ability to advance the sequencer steps using an external trigger, so you could set up odd sequences by mismatching the number of notes and triggers.

I have a lot of admiration for what the Ndlr does, separating the rhythm from the list of notes is an excellent design decision. I’ve enjoyed routing the LFO to the clock divisor and another LFO to pattern numbers, yielding plenty of variation from simple building blocks. I like the way Ndlr encourages experimentation and think of it as working in a tonal landscape rather than following a predetermined score – curated possibilities! With the LFOs, rhythms and note patterns the Ndlr is like a modular arp sequencer and it uses proper 5 pin midi.

I want to thank you Steve and Daryl, the Ndlr is a great tool, quite unique and really suits my way of working. Good luck with the future development. 

Is there a way to control how often the pad notes are retriggered?

If not, what is the logic in how often they retriggered? I'm trying to figure it out and it's not an even set of bars. 19 1/4th notes?

Hey guys

I've had my NDLR for a couple of weeks now and have explored all the functions so I'm familiar with how it works.

I tried to make a track with it this week but have ended up losing a few days worth of studio time due to the number of problems I'm having with it, so I've given up for now which is quite disappointing.

Here are some of the problems I've had and features that either aren't working or IMO need to be implemented/refined to make this unit practical to use in the studio.

1. Motif1 MIDI out failure: 

I built a track around the NDLR (with a drum machine and my modular synced to it) and then switched to external sync (USB1) to sync the NDLR to my DAW ready for recording. This appears to have completely killed MIDIA Ch1 which Motif1 was using. A couple of times I did get it back by doing various resets and loads, but now nothing I have tried will recover it and I have no MIDI output for Motif1 (even I use a different MIDI channel). (I've checked this with a midi monitor, Motif2 is still working).

2. General repeatability issues. 

I'm finding the NDLR very difficult to set up for repeatable behaviour. I'm sure this is mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but it appears there is no way to reset patterns, rhythms, or even globally reset on MMC start and stop (essential for recording), which means that it's impossible to create synced grooves. I had to use external VCAs in the abandoned track to get any kind of predictable yet interesting rhythm going, perhaps I'm missing something? 

Suggestion: Each motif should have a reset on note-on msg for either the pattern or the rhythm or both.

Suggestion 2: Other MIDI messages could trigger a global pattern/rhythm reset

3. MIDI input/transpose etc not working.

My unit doesn't respond to MIDI input from my arturia keyboard or any of my sequencers in any way that I can perceive - certainly nothing changes on-screen. It does receive MIDI clock from the keyboard/DAW though so there's something else amiss here - perhaps I'm missing something. 

4. It doesn't behave like a normal arpeggiator - feature request.

Seems a bit weird to be requesting this but I would expect to be able to play a series of chords into the machine and these would trigger a series of arpeggios based on the chords notes. It would make sense to have the note-on messages reset either the pattern or rhythm (or both, or neither) of the arpeggio accordingly. This is an essential 'playability' feature of any arpeggiator as far as I can tell.  

5. Unstable settings.

I find it way too easy to accidentally destroy the balance of a patch with a single touch of an encoder that happens to be pointing at the wrong parameter, even though the desired parameter is displayed on the screen (also the yellowness of a parameter is not accurately reflected but that's a minor bug). When this happens there is often no way back because the parameter settings are often graphical and unmemorable (especially if you're not looking at them), and this is very frustrating in practice.

It also means that touching any encoder requires an extra level of thought, which I find tiring and annoying, and this makes the unit feel less like a musical instrument and detracts from the musical process

My suggestion would be to only show the parameters that are currently editable. Have an immutable overview screen to see everything at once if needs be. By only displaying the mutable parameters the displayed parameters could be bigger and clearer, which would be a very big bonus and help the workflow. 

6. There appears to be only 10 patch memories! Can this be increased to 127 and have them accessible via MIDI program change please? 10 isn't enough bearing in mind how easy it is to lose the balance of a patch.

7. Global settings and patch settings appear to have been merged but I'm not sure this is helpful in the studio. For example, it would be good to have a few global settings for different studio modes (e.g. DAW master, NDLR master, modular master etc), and these should be mutually exclusive from the patch (musical) settings. Otherwise, when you transition a studio mode (e.g. from jamming in NDLR master to recording in DAW master) all your presets become useless!

8. Rhythm step mutes. I couldn't find a way to mute steps of a rhythm without creating glides, is this deliberate or am I missing something?!  

Suggestion rhythms should be a series of velocities but steps should also be able to be toggled on off otherwise you lose compatibility with MIDI->CV interfaces.


Please let me know if I've overlooked some features that have caused the problems above!