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  Start/Stop CC MIDI through?
Posted by: csaoh - 12-28-2023, 12:49 PM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (2)

EDIT: NEVERMIND I JUST FOUND MY ANSWER BY READING THE OTHER TOPICS (at least for the midi through part, not sure about the clock bug)

Hey folks!

New NDLR user here, i'm trying to figure out how can I integrate it into my DAWless setup, and while I have found a really cool way to do it, I still have trouble figuring out one particular detail. 

Is it possible to make the NDLR pass through all the start/stop CC's from a master source into "child" the synths ? 

My current setup has a Boss RC-500 guitar looper acting as MIDI clock, it sends start and stop CC signals into two Novation Circuit grooveboxes, that immediately start playing at the same tempo as the loop. I'd love to insert the NDLR in between the looper and the Circuits, but my issue is that if i do it, the grooveboxes don't start with the looper anymore, unless they have at least one track mapped from the NDLR and armed to play (and even then, sometimes the notes are sent but not the start, or the stop...)

A workaround could be always mapping at least one track on each groovebox to the NDLR and mute these tracks, but I tend to do a lot of live improvisations, and it's hard to predict in advance what I would be using (and to think about resetting it back again after each "track"). Ideally I'd like for the NDLR to be "transparent" and act as if it's not here unless I specifically want to use it; then, if a track would be assigned to a pattern on the NDLR, it would just play when its play button is pressed.

I've also noticed a weird bug, every time I start the playback on the looper, the NDLR always starts faster and actually takes around a second to adjust to the beat, so i'd definitely rather let the looper dictate the tempo to the grooveboxes. Like, having all the CC going from the looper through the NDLR and into the MIDI outputs, and having the NDLR only sending note signals when needed

I'm using a v1 with the latest firmware BTW

Thanks in advance!

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  Tied notes through pad chord changes?
Posted by: glenniszen - 12-13-2023, 08:36 AM - Forum: General Support - No Replies

Hi,
I've just got my new NDLR - it's fun so far and I'm still learning, but I have a question.
Whenever a chord change happens with the pad - can I make it tie a note that is already playing - rather than the same note being re-triggered.. this would allow for smoother more pleasing chord progressions, thanks.

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  NDLR For Dummies
Posted by: hiddenagenda - 12-03-2023, 11:11 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (1)

I'm pretty new at this midi sequencer stuff.  I'm getting to do some things but very rudimentary.  My remark is that while this is a wonderful device if I saw a book for sale that said NDLR For Dummies (perhaps written by Jesse) I would certainly pay a considerable price for it.  I don't learn well with Youtubes.  I need referrence documents.

I still love my NDLR but I am struggling to get fluent with it.

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  Position encoder R.I.P.
Posted by: Eamoex - 12-02-2023, 02:07 PM - Forum: General Support - Replies (4)

Position/Strum encoder is dead on my V1 unit. Click is fine, rotation stopped having any effect. Can ConductiveLabs please provide with the reference of the correct encoder used so I can replace it?
Cheers

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Photo Screen superposition
Posted by: rotalumis - 12-02-2023, 10:26 AM - Forum: General Support - Replies (1)

Hi there,
If I go (shift+menu) in one of the new two modes of the latest firware (rotation or interval), then push menu and again shift+menu, the current rotation or interval screen image superimpose to the previouis menu image.



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  Controlling Logic Pro via the NDLR
Posted by: PeteCee - 12-01-2023, 05:54 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (3)

Hi. Long time DAW user here branching out into the world of hardware. I’ve just got my hands on the NDLR and am loving it. Currently set up to control soft synths via Logic Pro and also have it hooked up to my Novation Peak.

My question is; can the NDLR control the start/stop of the play head in Logic (or DAWs in general), when pressing one of the four play button at the bottom, or the global play button?

I’ve gone through all the menus of the NDLR and Logic and tried loads of different permutations but I’m guessing it either can’t be done or I’m missing something real simple. 

Thanks in advance for any help. Pete.

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  MIDI PC message issues
Posted by: KDJ3992 - 11-24-2023, 08:30 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (3)

My NDLR does not seem to respond to MIDI Program Change (PC) messages to select presets.  When I send the PC number, nothing happens.  I can recover the presets manually using the physical controls on the device, but I primarily control the NDLR via external MIDI foot controllers, so using the NDLR's physical controls to change presets doesn't work as well for me.  Is there something else that needs to be transmitted with the PC message?  Or some other trick?  (For example, some of my external synths require an additional MSB/LSB number be transmitted along with the PC message.)

Thanks in advance?

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  Corrected/Updated MIDI implementation chart?
Posted by: KDJ3992 - 11-24-2023, 08:25 AM - Forum: MIDI Connectivity - Replies (2)

Does anyone have an updated or corrected MIDI implementation chart for the NDLR?  The one included in the manual seems to have a significant number of inaccuracies/omissions.  Here are some of the ones I've discovered:

  • CC 26 (chord degree) -- The manual chart says the range is 1-7, but it appears actually to be 0-6.  For example, sending a "1" results in a II chord, not a I chord.
  • CC 27 (chord type) -- The manual chart says the range is 1-7, but it also appears to be 0-6.  For example, sending a "1" results in a 7th chord, not a triad.  (Note -- The range being off by one does not seem to be a universal issue.  For CC 73 (key), the chart says the range is 1-12 and the range really seems to be 1-12, with a "1" resulting in a key of C.)
  • CC 30 (pad range) -- The manual provides a range of 1-100, but doesn't indicate that the number sent will not be equivalent to the range intended.  For example, sending a "4" results in a range of 1 not a range of 4.  After trial and error, I discovered that sending a "15" results in a range of 4.  So it appears there is a range of numbers that correspond to specific ranges, but finding the right message numbers takes time consuming trial and error.
  • CC 28 (pad position) -- Similar issue: the number sent is not equivalent to the position intended.  For example, sending a "66" does not result in a position of 66 but instead results in a position of 78.  I can find the right message to send after trial and error, but this is a time consuming process.
  • CC 90 (all start/stop) -- This CC number doesn't appear to work.  Sending a value on this CC number doesn't impact my device.  To get an all start/stop, I have to send individual CC start/stop messages to each of the 4 parts separately (via CC numbers 85, 86, 87, and 88).  While this is something of a workaround, it doesn't do the re-syncing of motifs that an all stop/start would do.
  • CC 120 (panic) -- CC 120 isn't included in the manual's MIDI implementation chart.  I only learned that it was a possibility when I received the Nov. 22 newsletter about the new firmware update.  The e-mail says that the CC is being changed from 120 to 123 -- but neither CC is included in either the v. 1.9 or 2.0 manuals.

I'm a wind synth player and primarily use the NDLR to be my accompanist.  I control the NDLR almost exclusively using foot MIDI controllers.  It works fairly well once I get the MIDI foot controllers set up, but the setup process is much more time consuming than I would like given the inaccuracies of the MIDI implementation charts.  And some features don't seem to work (CC 90) or aren't obvious (CC 120/123) through external MIDI controller.  The device would be much more usable for me with a more complete/accurate MIDI implementation guide.

Thanks in advance.

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  NDLR v1 vs v2
Posted by: Owgill - 11-17-2023, 05:21 AM - Forum: General Support - No Replies

What are the differences between the two versions?
Will all new functionality developed for v2 be ported to the v1?

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  MIDI Note Input Modifier / Re-Sequencer
Posted by: SteveECrane - 11-06-2023, 05:28 PM - Forum: Feature Requests - Replies (1)

Fellow knob twiddling folk, 

I have already noticed some requests for the NDLR to gain some of the capability of pseudo-random sequencing devices such as the Stochastic Sig or the Vermona Melodicer, and I would like to add one of my own - a feature of the MIDIcake ARP:

Take an existing MIDI stream as an input and then be able to produce a related MIDI output based on a combination of how the NDLR is configured for that particular patch (that is the scale type and root key) combined with pitch information it is receiving as MIDI note input data. That is, essentially re-sequencing the MIDI input notes using the NDLR as an intelligent modifier of pitch data, to produce new drone, chord and arpeggiated sequences. 

[Note: I'm not talking about the way NDLR can currently respond to incoming monophonic notes by way of an alternative to the front panel controls.]

Something along the lines of what the MIDIcake ARP is doing here:

https://youtu.be/d5xK471xlJ8

I'd also like to see the NDLR be able to generate Pgm Change messages, as well as respond to them for selecting its own internal patches (i.e. setup configs) ... unless I've missed this capability!

Finally, a flabbergasted comment: 8 patch or setup memories!? Dear Lord ... just how retro are we going to get with some of this new gear!? Has anyone not seen how cheap MicroSD cards are?

Other than that, I'm still loving it! 

Anyways, just my personal thoughts...

Cheers,
Steve.

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