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How does the rotation algorithm work? - Hoogerj - 03-26-2021
Hi,
Is there anyone who can tell me more about the 'rotation algorithm'-feature? It's under [shift+menu] encoder 2. But I haven't got a clue.
I already posted this in the advanced features-section of this forum, but it's a little quiet down there.
https://conductivelabs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1456
Cheers,
John
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - Ghostz_of_Moar - 03-26-2021
.(I mean somebody had to use the precious space where the os resides to put this beta feature in...)...lol.
I do have an idea as per how to deduce it’s effect on the output.
I have an mv8800 and I could try recording the midi phrases into patterns and try and see the differences when the function is set to on or off. Do you have similar technology at your disposal?
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - MKS30 - 03-26-2021
It's designed to do this:
and.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQFJQSHzjiY
and... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2bNMpY4w4
On the Enc 2 Beta page for the Rotation Algo:
The rotator functionality is transmitted over the midi channel defined on Settings 1/3 - KB Trans
Parameters are set in pattern 40 using steps 1-5 (not sure what this means..motifs? )
1 is the Parallel Note
2-5 are the rotation notes 1,2,3,4
Scale values are centered around value=20
Therefore: 20=0 semitones, 15= -5 semitones, 27= +7 semitones
In yellow 7 -5 -10 -7 -14 (not sure how to change these...motifs step 1-5? )
This would seem to indicate:
+7 is the Parallel note
-5 -10 -7 -14 are the rotation notes 1-4
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - Ghostz_of_Moar - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 06:38 PM)MKS30 Wrote: It's designed to do this:
and.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQFJQSHzjiY
and... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2bNMpY4w4
On the Enc 2 Beta page for the Rotation Algo:
The rotator functionality is transmitted over the midi channel defined on Settings 1/3 - KB Trans
Parameters are set in pattern 40 using steps 1-5 (not sure what this means..motifs? )
1 is the Parallel Note
2-5 are the rotation notes 1,2,3,4
Scale values are centered around value=20
Therefore: 20=0 semitones, 15= -5 semitones, 27= +7 semitones
In yellow 7 -5 -10 -7 -14 (not sure how to change these...motifs step 1-5? )
This would seem to indicate:
+7 is the Parallel note
-5 -10 -7 -14 are the rotation notes 1-4
Thank you ! So is this to be applied to the motifs only on pattern 40?
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - Jesse Johannesen - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 06:59 AM)Hoogerj Wrote: Hi,
Is there anyone who can tell me more about the 'rotation algorithm'-feature? It's under [shift+menu] encoder 2. But I haven't got a clue.
I already posted this in the advanced features-section of this forum, but it's a little quiet down there.
https://conductivelabs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1456
Cheers,
John
I didn't get a chance in my meeting with Steve to get a full demo, but the gist of it is that it uses the first 5 values of motif pattern 40 to implement the rotator functionality linked in the video. I will try to play with it tonight and see if I can discern its functionality to the point of giving a simple (potato quality) demonstration.
Jesse
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - MKS30 - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 09:07 PM)Jesse Johannesen Wrote:(03-26-2021, 06:59 AM)Hoogerj Wrote: Hi,
Is there anyone who can tell me more about the 'rotation algorithm'-feature? It's under [shift+menu] encoder 2. But I haven't got a clue.
I already posted this in the advanced features-section of this forum, but it's a little quiet down there.
https://conductivelabs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1456
Cheers,
John
I didn't get a chance in my meeting with Steve to get a full demo, but the gist of it is that it uses the first 5 values of motif pattern 40 to implement the rotator functionality linked in the video. I will try to play with it tonight and see if I can discern its functionality to the point of giving a simple (potato quality) demonstration.
Jesse
It's a crafty implementation, looks like Steve is setting us a riddle to solve
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - Hoogerj - 03-27-2021
Thanks all! I am dying to hear more about this. In the meantime I am going to give it a try this weekend with all this new info available.
RE: How does the rotation algorithm work? - Jesse Johannesen - 04-30-2021
OK so I talked with Steve and got the lowdown on this Easter-egg. So as I mentioned before it works in conjunction with pattern number 40, and specifically the first 5 values of pattern 40 correspond to the Parallel interval and the 4 rotating intervals.
This means that for any note you play (I imagine on the transpose channel, but forgot to ask) it do the following:
1 Play that note,
2 Play the note that is the parallel interval up from that note
3 Play the note that is the next rotating interval from that note and
4 move the rotating note forward 1 space in the list.
So any note played elicits 3 separate notes out, 2 will always be the same interval apart, one will change interval per note played.
Let me know if that makes sense or if I need to take another whack at describing it. meanwhile I'll check what the input channel is and see if I can clarify that.
Jesse